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Re: What's in store for... aw, who's counting?

Post by MadManMUC » Fri Dec 08, 2017 8:22 pm

Jason Abbadon wrote:
Vahmp wrote:
Well, I assumed that the Pylons were thick enough for a ladder or Jeffries Tubes if the power went out for any reason, giving manual access to and from it.
Naw. Over at the Flare Sci Fi Forums, we broke the whole ship down by decks- based on the ship's length and known deck height, the Oberth needs to be 150 meters long to even get a ladder in there- and that would be a nightmare climb at odd angles of six or seven decks height!
It makes the design even more nonsensical, then, if your figures are correct.

On days an Oberth-class isn't getting blown up by Klingons, what happens if they have nacelle troubles requiring an engineering team to get in there? EVAs? Hell, even the NX-01 had interior nacelle access.

This is what happens when you give Trek to ILM, kids*.

*OK, OK, they did give us the BoP. But still.
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Re: What's in store for... aw, who's counting?

Post by Jason Abbadon » Sat Dec 09, 2017 12:03 am

Um...the nacelles on the Oberth are those bumps on either side of the circular part of the primary hull.
They can be serviced easier than on probably any other Feddie design of the movie era.

I think those flush vents along the pod are for analysis of gasses- used for sucking up gasses, not expelling them.


Personally, I LOVE the Oberth- it's weird and unique and I'd love to see a TNG version of it....
Maybe using the saucer from a New Orleans...

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Re: What's in store for... aw, who's counting?

Post by Tesral » Sat Dec 09, 2017 3:42 am

Jason Abbadon wrote:I think those flush vents along the pod are for analysis of gasses- used for sucking up gasses, not expelling them.
The Oberth sucks and blows.
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Re: What's in store for... aw, who's counting?

Post by MEATLOAFr » Sat Dec 09, 2017 4:37 am

Tesral wrote:
Jason Abbadon wrote:I think those flush vents along the pod are for analysis of gasses- used for sucking up gasses, not expelling them.
The Oberth sucks and blows.

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Post by Jason Abbadon » Sat Dec 09, 2017 9:48 pm

MegaMaid is still far better than the new First Order ship designs.
Their new Super Duper Star Destroyer is SIXTY KILOMETERS ACROSS.

I'd pay real money for a Spaceballs 2 wherein they just added engines to the actual Manhattan island- and all the Stormtroopers are typically belligerent New Yorkers.

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Post by Greyryder » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:33 am

Jason Abbadon wrote:MegaMaid is still far better than the new First Order ship designs.
Their new Super Duper Star Destroyer is SIXTY KILOMETERS ACROSS.

I'd pay real money for a Spaceballs 2 wherein they just added engines to the actual Manhattan island- and all the Stormtroopers are typically belligerent New Yorkers.
I once came up with a ship that was something like 27 miles long. It had one engine (At least as long as the main hull) mounted outrigger style.

In my defense, I was nine.

Can we get Tim Russ back, as a Spaceball trooper?

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Post by Tesral » Sun Dec 10, 2017 4:55 am

Jason Abbadon wrote:MegaMaid is still far better than the new First Order ship designs.
Their new Super Duper Star Destroyer is SIXTY KILOMETERS ACROSS.

I'd pay real money for a Spaceballs 2 wherein they just added engines to the actual Manhattan island- and all the Stormtroopers are typically belligerent New Yorkers.

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Re: What's in store for... aw, who's counting?

Post by Vahmp » Wed Dec 13, 2017 7:14 pm

Jason Abbadon wrote:
Vahmp wrote: Well, I assumed that the Pylons were thick enough for a ladder or Jeffries Tubes if the power went out for any reason, giving manual access to and from it.
Naw. Over at the Flare Sci Fi Forums, we broke the whole ship down by decks- based on the ship's length and known deck height, the Oberth needs to be 150 meters long to even get a ladder in there- and that would be a nightmare climb at odd angles of six or seven decks height!

Imagine you work in a basement that's buried six stories underground and you have to ladder down every day- and halfway, the ladder is at a 20 degree angle...

No, I think maybe it can be serviced by teams beaming in, but that it's generally unmanned.

It's just a big sensor and telescope....and kinky sex dungeon. That's why the Klingons really blew up the Oberth- the Oberth's skipper forgot the "safety word".

It was "banana" damn it! BANANA!!!!
Hm... I don't think you understood what I said...
I said, that they can beam in and out EVERYDAY, and use the ladders in Emergencies out power Outages. Not the other way around. :lol: :lol:
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Post by Jason Abbadon » Thu Dec 14, 2017 2:37 am

No, i gotcha- but intra-ship beaming was still dangerous as heck in the TNG era- making it too risky to be part of the Oberth's design.

OTOH, I've always felt that intra-ship beaming should be safe and should be universal instead of turbolifts-
Just run a dedicated conduit for the matter stream to move along with a magnetic containment.

If you're sending a medical team from one end of the ship to the other, they should be using this method.
Security teams too- they'd arrive instantly to kick ass!
Of course, By TNG, A LOT of stuff should be handled automatically by the computer- if some jackhole beans aboard with a phaser, that weapon should be rendered inert.
Or beamed directly into a secured area.

But then, I also think that guys like the Romulans should be making examples of people by beaming their bones out of their business bodies as soon as they knock the shields down!

Suck on that, Riker, you boneless, bearded bozo!

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Re: What's in store for... aw, who's counting?

Post by Vahmp » Tue Dec 19, 2017 1:12 am

Jason Abbadon wrote:No, i gotcha- but intra-ship beaming was still dangerous as heck in the TNG era- making it too risky to be part of the Oberth's design.

OTOH, I've always felt that intra-ship beaming should be safe and should be universal instead of turbolifts-
Just run a dedicated conduit for the matter stream to move along with a magnetic containment.

If you're sending a medical team from one end of the ship to the other, they should be using this method.
Security teams too- they'd arrive instantly to kick ass!
Of course, By TNG, A LOT of stuff should be handled automatically by the computer- if some jackhole beans aboard with a phaser, that weapon should be rendered inert.
Or beamed directly into a secured area.
Yea... I was thinking the same... Efficient and rapid deployment.
But then, I also think that guys like the Romulans should be making examples of people by beaming their bones out of their business bodies as soon as they knock the shields down!

Suck on that, Riker, you boneless, bearded bozo!
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: That just cracked me up. :D
Laterz...
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