Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

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Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Mon Oct 20, 2014 8:35 pm

I've had this little gem of a kit for a while, and I've recently decided to pull out out and get back to work on it. I put it aside for a while because....well, drilling window holes through thick resin hulls is wearying to say the least. I've posted these pictures on Facebook, but I realize that not everyone is a big fan of social media. So here they are, reposted here with a little of my rambling nonsense added in for some spice.

First.....I thought I posted an OOB review of the kit on this forum, but I'll be darned if I can find it anywhere! Here are a couple shots of the model back when I received it:
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As you can see, the detail on this "little" ship is sharp! When I first got her, all these 2-part hollow hulls were just begging to be lit up. The trouble is, the resin is thick and the windows small. Some of them are VERY small. And the windows around the saucer are nearly impossible to get into. That for me was a bummer, since those rim windows are really necessary to me on a ship called "Enterprise."

If a person wanted to light just the main parts of this ship (warp engines, deflector, and the bridge dome/lower dome) they could do it easily. If you're like me and you've decided to light up the windows, then I feel for ya brother. I really do. More pics to come.
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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Mon Oct 20, 2014 9:04 pm

So that's the kit review, in its short SHORT version.

Here's where we are now. The secondary hull houses the female receptacle for the power plug, as well as 3 LEDs for the secondary hull and a 4th for the interconnecting dorsal. It also serves as the main bus for the rest of the power connections. Needless to say...that's a lot of crap packed into a very small space.
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I also had to install some 1/8 inch brass tubing in the lower part of the saucer. This was a structural reinforcement issue, and will also serve as pass-through ports for the saucer wiring.
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For the top of the hull, I decided to cut out the very tiny impulse crystal detail. It's almost a perfect fit for a 3mm LED. Any detail I lose in this spot is minimal, really...it's such a small spot.
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I also had to route out some channels for the wiring to the engines.
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And it goes without saying...small holes had to be drilled in the receiving slots for both the secondary hull and engines that lined up with the new wire channels:
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That's a lot of windows:
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First light test:
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I also lightly tacked the deflector on the front "plug" and put it in place to test the light:
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Once this was done, I soldered the rest of the power feeds to the main bus in the secondary hull. I needed three feeds: one leading up to the saucer, and one each for the engines.
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It looks pretty messy here, but it's not as bad as it looks. It's about at this point last night when I realized that (I have NO idea how this could be) I didn't have a single bottle of ZapCA or any other superglue in the house. So much for sealing up the secondary hull, which had been the main part of the plan for the weekend. Oh well. At least I work for a hobby company. As I type this, I am looking at two bottles of Model Expo CA to the left of my keyboard.

The last thing I did last night was to wire up the LED harnesses for the warp engine. Each engine will have 2 3mm LEDs in them -- one mounted through the forward wall to light up the bussard, and one pointed aft to catch the clear bit at the arse end of the engine. I won't have the really great spinning effect of the big model, but for this size I think I'll be pretty happy just to have a glowing bussard.

That's it for this report! In a couple nights I'll take some shots and explain what I did for the saucer windows.
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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by CarlGo » Tue Oct 21, 2014 12:45 am

Looking great so far! Is the resin thick enough that you don't need to spray a light blocking coat inside?

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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:28 am

it most certainly is. All you probably need is a couple coats of primer.

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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Tue Oct 21, 2014 5:00 pm

Let me clarify. The resin is really thick, so there's no reason to put a black coat on the inside of the model. Once the ship is buttoned up, I'll probably start with a thin coat of black on the outside, then light test and look to see if any more is needed. But I seriously doubt it will. Once that's done, I'll use a grey primer and proceed as per usual.

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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by el gato » Tue Oct 21, 2014 7:47 pm

This kit looks sweet and nicely detailed. And I love what you've done so far. It also looks like you've got the glowing deflector dish solved
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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Wed Oct 22, 2014 3:03 pm

Here's the report from last night:

I (GULP) took the plunge and buttoned up the secondary hull. A little stressful when you're sealing away your lighting rig....but it's done! More to the point...it looks pretty nice in the dark.
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Once that was done, I started working on the nacelle pylons. Unfortunately I didn't realize that there was a little zip kicker on the part. So all I succeeded in doing was sealing up the alignment holes and getting glue everywhere. :lol:
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Thankfully it was easy to clean up. A little sanding, some matched carbide drill bits to cut out the holes again, and with some careful work, I wound up here:
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Once that was done, I turned my attention to the nacelles. I already rigged the lighting in them the other night, but I had to remove one of the rigs last night because (a) I installed it in the wrong engine half, and (b) the nacelle was warped anyway. I used some hot water to bend the halves back in place, and cold water to set the resin. Then I tested one and temporarily supplied power to the engine:
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I must have done that light test before I fixed the glue issue on the starboard pylon. I was doing a LOT of light tests; sue me.

Speaking of light tests....this one was my favorite so far:
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Something about that classic angle just makes me happy. :D

I was almost done for the night by this point. One more fitting test with both inner nacelle halves to make sure I can wire them properly:
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The alignment looks really good on this kit, even without messing with a jig. I think most people will be able to eyeball these engines and wind up with some nice, even nacelles.

The last thing I did for the night was a quick application of squadron white. I'll come back to this tonight with some sandpaper, and start smoothing out the glue seams as well.
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That's it for this report! The model is starting to look like a starship finally. I can't wait to start lighting up the saucer to see if my clear resin work on the saucer rim will do the job, or if I did all that work for nothing. I should be getting to that by this weekend after I'm done cleaning up the secondary hull.

Finally, what do you think? Should I apply a thin strip of brass to the pylons for extra stability? Will it even work with the curved surface? I could use some scrap photoetch brass (it's nice to work at a model place sometimes!) but I don't know if it would help. What do you think?
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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Thu Oct 23, 2014 2:28 pm

Nothing picture-worthy for today's update, but I did attack the model with a few sanding sticks last night, and applied some auto glaze putty to the lower seams. I really don't want to attach the warp engines until these seams are completely ready; there's very little room to move around once the engines are in place.

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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Sat Oct 25, 2014 5:38 pm

OK, just a little work on this ship last night and this morning. Mainly seam work with some Mr. Surfacer and sanding sticks (LOVE these things BTW!)

I think today is the day that the warp engines get installed though!

I filled this trench with Squadron white, allowed it to dry for a day, then went to town. Still need to do a little more work and re-scribe some lines.
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Here's the main seam on the bottom. There was a lot of light leakage down here, but with the help of some glazing putty and Mr. Surfacer, I think we've tackled this pretty well.
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That's it for now. More to come tonight if those engines get put on. I'm still wondering about added some strip brass to the pylons for support, and I'd love your input about that!! Don't be shy!
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Re: Section 31 JJPrise construction so far...

Post by novahobbies » Sun Oct 26, 2014 12:19 am

We're getting pic heavy. Prepare for a big post.

Since I didn't hear anyone voicing any opinions about my question regarding the pylons, I decided to just go for it. This is VERY thin etched strip that I cut and applied with thin set CA. The metal itself won't provide a lot of support, but the CA acts as a filet between the resin and the metal, giving a nice firm bond. I think this will help prevent any future droopage.
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Here is the Glue Looper application tool I've been trying. Fits right in a knife handle. So far I like it.
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These next few pictures show the assembly and light testing of the engines to the pylons. I glued the inner halves to the pylons first, soldered the power lines to the LED hookups, then glued the outer pylon halves to the inner ones. Like so:
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Not sure how I'm going to mask these yet:
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I went ahead and LIGHTLY tacked the bussards in place to see how they look:
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These next few pictures are just some comparison shots of the JJprise against a few 1/1400 and 1/1000 scale models. Now, the Section31 boxart says this ship is 11.75 inches long and 1/1000 scale. OK, well, I'm not going to get into the "whose ship is bigger" debate. If you go with the Ryan Church 1200ft (366m) as it was originally designed, this model is actually 1/1225 scale. If you go with the idea that this is actually an uber-ship at 725m, then this 11.75 inch model works out to about 1/2430 scale.

In other words, you can keep this ship with your 1/1000, 1/1400, OR 1/2500 scale models, depending on how you feel. Dude, I really don't care, it's YOUR model. :D
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And here are a couple quick beauty shots for the night.
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That's it for tonight. I need to get a new soldering tip before I go any further with the saucer lighting...this one is completely shot. I may try laying down some primer tomorrow and working on light-blocking the seams for the nacelles....they need it.
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