Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by MSgtUSAFRet » Sun Mar 18, 2018 3:07 am

This is looking great, Steve!

As always, I'm learning lots as the feet, well more like the "thread", of the Master!!

Hey, isn't he a Time Lord?!

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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by Tesral » Mon Mar 19, 2018 2:38 pm

A thought just popped into my head. Being that it was a rare location I looked carefully.

I have seen a number of the Star Wars shooting models. They all share a single trait in they have no glass in the glass. This gives you a better view into the cockpit or cabin as the case might be, as glass does not scale well, and it prevents unwanted glare from the lights.

Did you plan to put the transparencies into the Spindrift? Clear styrene is not that clear and highly distorting, I'm thinking you might be better off without it.
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by trekriffic » Mon Mar 19, 2018 5:15 pm

Tesral wrote:A thought just popped into my head. Being that it was a rare location I looked carefully.

I have seen a number of the Star Wars shooting models. They all share a single trait in they have no glass in the glass. This gives you a better view into the cockpit or cabin as the case might be, as glass does not scale well, and it prevents unwanted glare from the lights.

Did you plan to put the transparencies into the Spindrift? Clear styrene is not that clear and highly distorting, I'm thinking you might be better off without it.
Haven't mounted the passenger cabin windows yet. The bow windows are in though.
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by trekriffic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:11 pm

Greetings again fellow LOTG fans. Got a lot done last week while I was off work.
Not everything went so smoothly; I had to tear the top parts of the hull off and the lower half re-glue them after gluing them down.

The first time was because the passenger cabin window insert on the starboard side broke free from the inside of the upper forward hull piece. I'd glued it in with epoxy but with the curvature of the hull and some flexing it experienced while I was gluing it down (with Testors cement and CA) to the lower hull the epoxy broke loose and the insert slid down into the hull. So I ripped the hull apart, found the rogue clear insert and glued both in with more epoxy followed by Gorilla Glue which is polyurethane based. It's their brown glue. That stuff foams up as it dries so you want to be careful and not get carried away with it. Once that dried I had a hard as rock bond and the inserts stayed put without further incident.

The second time I had to rip off the back upper hull after sealing everything up. I did a light test and half the engine flashers were out! Also, the lights at the front of the ship above the pilot's control console didn't work!??? So I pulled her back end apart and totally rewired the Tenacontrols board wires and the circuits for the pilot cabin lights, oh, and the dome on top of the ship would only stay on for about 5 seconds before going out! After re-wiring it stays on for about 30 seconds. Anyway, it always comes back on again when I first turn on the power. I think the problem is I forgot I had soldered a resistor onto the dome LED circuit early on during this build and mistakenly attached a second resistor further on down the line when I started soldering the wires to power. So the dome LEDs have twice the number of resistors than it should have. Still, 30 seconds gives me enough time to snap photos with the light on so not a total disaster. The pilot cabin circuit was intermittent due to a bad solder joint. It was fixed and the lights stayed on. Now the hull is glued back together and I am engaged with sanding the putty I needed to use to close some rather hideous seams.

Anyway, here are some photos to bring you guys up to date...

The first test fit of the aft upper hull went well...

ImageAft Upper Hull Test Fit by trekriffic, on Flickr

Using .015 clear styrene sheet I cut a bulkhead to run down the center of the aft "engine bay". Holes were drilled in it for LED mounting. I left the anti-scratch film on it to act as a diffuser:

ImageCenter LED Wall by trekriffic, on Flickr

A rectangle of clear red styrene was trimmed to fit the aft passenger cabin light wall:

ImageRed Transparent Styrene by trekriffic, on Flickr

Placing the clear red panel behind the wall and holding it up to the light makes for a nice red glow:

ImagePassenger Engine Glow Wall Lit by trekriffic, on Flickr

Two Red LEDs will attach to Tenacontrols Board and slowly pulse up and down. Here is the underside of the panel after coating with liquid electical tape. The panel will mount low on the wall behind the long storage cabinet at the back of the passenger cabin:

ImageLEDs for Aft Glow Wall by trekriffic, on Flickr

The panel was covered with aluminum tape and glued between the clear bulkhead and the engine glow wall:

ImagePair of LEDs in Place Behind Wall by trekriffic, on Flickr

Panels were cut from clear red styrene sheet using paper templates. Elmer's clear craft glue works well to glue them in place behind the engine exhaust vents:

ImageClear Red Panels for Engine Vents by trekriffic, on Flickr

Gorilla glue was used for added strength to hold the passenger cabin windows firmly in place. The glue expands like a foam and dries rock hard. Only a little is needed:

ImageWindows Glued Into Upper Forward Hull by trekriffic, on Flickr

The passenger cabin windows were masked and the edges sealed with Future to protect them during the next steps. A fine black enamel paint pen was run along the inside of the frames to look like black weatherstripping:

ImageWindow Masking by trekriffic, on Flickr

Lots of wires to be soldered. Here I use "helping hands" to hold an LED up tight to the wire while I solder it to the positive leg:

ImageSoldering by trekriffic, on Flickr

I created a slanted shelf by bending the diffuser panel plastic at an angle. The panel was made from milk jug plastic and sits behind the red clear panel that attaches to the back of the wall at the rear of the passenger compartment:

ImageTenacontrols Board Placement by trekriffic, on Flickr

This is how the bow looks after you glue the back end of the forward upper hull to the lower hull. The upper hull needs to be forced down over the top of the window frame in the front to try and cover this large gap:

ImageUpper Bow Window and Grill Seam by trekriffic, on Flickr

More to come...
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by trekriffic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:22 pm

Engine lights...

Six LEDs wired in parallel - three on each circuit. The black wire is common while the Tencontrols flasher board has two white wires for each of the two circuits. This is actually the second set of 6 LEDs I soldered for the engine glow effect. The first time I used the red LEDs that came from Tenacontrols but a few burned out over the course of soldering all these wires so I ended up replacing all six LEDs using some high brightness clear white LEDs I had gotten at Radio Shack awhile back:

ImageLEDs Wired for Engine Glow Effect by trekriffic, on Flickr

The LEDs in place in the "glow wall". The white LEDs will glow brighter than the original red LEDs:

ImageLEDs Mounted in Wall by trekriffic, on Flickr

The two forward and two aft facing LEDs got semi-opaque Glide dental floss tubes slipped over them to even out their glow:

ImageFloss Tubes for Diffusion of White LED light by trekriffic, on Flickr

I wasn't getting enough brightness in the engine compartment which prompted me to add two sections of white LED strip to the upper and lower hull halves at the aft end of the model. I tried to be careful not to overpower the pulsing LEDs with the strips:

ImageSupplemental LED Strip by trekriffic, on Flickr

ImageAdditional LED Strips by trekriffic, on Flickr

After having to tear loose the glued upper hull due to issues with the engine and pilot cabin lights discovered after I had sealed up the hull (before redoing the wiring) then regluing the upper hull halves after the repairs/changes were made was not a pretty sight. I can see hours of puttying and sanding ahead for me:

ImageHorendous Seams by trekriffic, on Flickr

More to come...
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by trekriffic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:28 pm

The saga continues...

The gap in the upper hull and window frame was closed about 75% using Plastic Surgery glue and holding for about 1 minute. More glue was then run along the seam for added strength.
The next step is using putty to complete the contours:

ImageBow Under the Hood by trekriffic, on Flickr

Did I say there was putty in my future? Nice holes on view in these shotsght:

ImageMore Ugly Seams by trekriffic, on Flickr

ImageAnother Nice Hole to Fill by trekriffic, on Flickr

Engine exhaust vent masking:

ImageEngine Exhaust Vent Masking by trekriffic, on Flickr

I used Tamiya Basic polyester putty to fill and gaps and re-sculpt contours. This dried and was sanded with a medium grit sanding stick:

ImagePuttied and Sanded by trekriffic, on Flickr

ImageMore Purrty and Sannding by trekriffic, on Flickr

Still more sanding to do but I wanted her tailfin attached so I could putty some gaps at the front tip of it:

ImageSpindrift Gets Her Tail by trekriffic, on Flickr

To fill in the area under the nose above the grills and window ports I used AVES. This is the first application of two to cover the seams and give this area the proper contours as seen in profile images of the Spindrift model and the blueprints:

ImageFirst AVES Putty by trekriffic, on Flickr

ImageClose by trekriffic, on Flickr

A thin styrene strip was glued to the AVES where it meets the window frames and grills. The last layer of AVES will be laid down over the strip leaving a nice clean edge:

ImageStyrene Strip by trekriffic, on Flickr

The second layer of AVES was laid down and feathered into the edge of the strip using dental tools:

ImageSecond Layer of AVES by trekriffic, on Flickr

More to come...
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by trekriffic » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:33 pm

The new nose profile. This closely matches the angle of the nose as seen in photos and some blueprints:

ImageNew Profile by trekriffic, on Flickr

AVES was also used to bridge the gap between the upper hull halves. The channel the fin slides into had to be bridged by sculpting the putty to match the channel:

ImageScupting the Tail by trekriffic, on Flickr

That's it for now. Just spending time sanding before applying some primer, then a coat of black for light blocking, maybe a shot of white primer then a shot of yellow before applying finishing orange coats.

Stay tuned!
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by Tesral » Wed Apr 04, 2018 4:34 pm

It's call All Sanding Trek for a reason.

Sorry to hear about the setback. Sadly happens to all of us.
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by trekriffic » Fri Apr 06, 2018 10:40 pm

Decided to unmask the bow window ports in case any of the tape had come unsealed along the edges. Was planning a quick re-masking with fresh tape before priming when I noticed one of my worst fears.... Both windows had a tiny bit of "crap" on the inside surface??? It was quite clearly visible; and the model was now most truly and assuredly sealed up.
No way to remove it.
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Re: Spindrift from Land of the Giants by Polar Lights

Post by MSgtUSAFRet » Mon Apr 09, 2018 4:47 pm

trekriffic wrote:Decided to unmask the bow window ports in case any of the tape had come unsealed along the edges. Was planning a quick re-masking with fresh tape before priming when I noticed one of my worst fears.... Both windows had a tiny bit of "crap" on the inside surface??? It was quite clearly visible; and the model was now most truly and assuredly sealed up.
No way to remove it.
Well........

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