Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

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Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby patrickivan » Thu Oct 13, 2016 4:14 pm

and you get a k'tinga?

Pretty bloody near looking.

Anyway, I should be committing my father of the bride speech to memory, so naturally I draw a freakin Starship.

Yes- at work on top of that.

I just wanted to see what a Miranda Class would look like without the saucer, and it turned into an idea.

Without it's bulk, what do I have here? I'm more of a The Federation is mostly peaceful with big drama stuff kinda on the extreme end of the spectrum, kind of guy. So this would perhaps just be some odd science type vessel.

But why loose all that useful saucer? I don't know really. I just thought it looked neat.

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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby MSgtUSAFRet » Thu Oct 13, 2016 7:49 pm

Patrickivan

Cool concept and design!

I’m kinda seeing a quick, mobile, light hospital ship. The ST:Universe has a Hospital ship, the one with the sphere on the Bow (U.S.S. Pasteur) but that is, in my opinion, like a huge naval Hospital ship that can be deployed for the long haul. But what about a Quick Response vehicle? Think M.A.S.H. or an E.R. in space. A small vehicle with minimal but necessary staff, small command staff, and security personnel, to be deployed at extreme warp speeds – say cruising speed of Warp 7 – with 9.9 for planetary disasters. Smaller than a hospital ship, could be approx. 100 beds. Try a Medical giant for a name – U.S.S. Alexander Fleming, co-discoverer of Penicillin or U.S.S. M. E. DeBakey, the Doctor who first conceived of the M.A.S.H. concept just to name two.

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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby kobayashimaru » Sat Oct 15, 2016 4:49 am

you sir, are a genius! :o

clearly, that's got to be canon -
it has to be related to the defiant project and pegasus etc.
maybe even the later sabre class.
It looks so much like data's scout ship from insurrection,
the hansen's Raven mobile...
it has a nice look to it with integral nacelles.
She reminds me of the real-world
Independence class, even a little of
Zumwalt or McGibon.
the MickeyG (Mike E G or MickeeGee) looks weird, but was supposed to be a long range PT boat hehe.

it reminds me of
WingCommander - paladin's ship!
"Ock' laddie! she's painful on the eyes..." -
immediately assumes command of the ship...

then, you go and stick some outer nacelles,
and it fills in some of those gaps from Wolf 359 graveyard.

thanks for sharing -
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of PatIvan?

can we get some rough MSD happening - planometric iso,
top, side, front... hidden lines, cutaway :lol:

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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby Kremin » Sat Oct 15, 2016 7:40 am

you could probably convert one from one of these

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Except you can't have this one, because it's mine,
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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby Moongrim » Sat Oct 15, 2016 9:16 pm

What a fascinating concept. I do like it. Lose the saucer section and you get rid of the bulk of the phaser banks- I concur about what the Federation is not.

It's almost as if she's more a Scout ship for colonization determination or archaeological missions.
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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby patrickivan » Tue Nov 01, 2016 3:28 pm

I'm kinda conflicted. Here's a modified image (original from Star Trek Fact Files).

Do I stretch out the front a little like in my original, or keep in more stock looking?

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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby RogueWolf » Tue Nov 01, 2016 5:58 pm

Looks like it could be a tug. Make the torp housing the deflector housing.
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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby patrickivan » Tue Nov 01, 2016 6:24 pm

Kremin wrote:you could probably convert one from one of these

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Except you can't have this one, because it's mine,
Mine, MINE MINE!!! :lol: :lol:


C'mon, er, mon... Yours is just sitting there collecting dust, isn't it? Admit it. LOL

RogueWolf wrote:Looks like it could be a tug. Make the torp housing the deflector housing.


Hmmm... I'm kinda liking that. Tug/ Mobile Repair. Big enough to support longer range flights. Small enough to have a few of them without being a huge cost.

Ya- I think I may go that route. The big shuttle doors are great for getting stuff in and out. Lots of internal useful space for big stuff. The PHOTORP pod was only left there out of laziness, but I like your idea of a deflector- since if it's pulling a large ship back, it may come in handy.
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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby kobayashimaru » Fri Nov 04, 2016 1:35 am

@patrickivan;
"Do I keep it stock looking, or elongate and modify it a little"

A: why not both? :lol:
"we have the technology".
you could super-impose a defiant hull,
a sketch roughly to scale of your ship in planometric views...
a venture class,
a larson class
a paladin's ship (from WC) etc...
and merge the lines between the designs?

the more variants, the merrier hehe.
a snub-nosed miranda testbed might be related to the
centaur class.

personally?
I like the original concept sketch, more than the snub-nosed Miranda variant.
the elongated center pylon and different angle of bridge is what makes it eye catching IMHO.
it looks a little like Defiant, a little like the andorian fed cruiser, a little like the Pasteur, all in the one ship.
the snub-nosed miranda looks more at home as a variant of oberth 'saucer section' IMHO.

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Re: Think: Miranda Class without the Saucer

Postby patrickivan » Tue Nov 15, 2016 1:47 pm

Better? I like both. LOL.

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