To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

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Re: To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

Postby TonyG2 » Thu Jun 08, 2017 7:50 am

Generally I will build first and then paint. For the reasons already given, building first you can then do a good job of the filling, sanding and cleaning up to prepare the surface for painting.

However, depending on the subject I will usually build in sub-assemblies so if we were talking about, say, the 1/1400 Galaxy class, I would build the saucer section, engineering hull and two nacelles as separate sub-assemblies. Fill, sand and finish and then paint them (often adding decals as well, especially if using the Aztec decals). Then bring the subassemblies together.

Works OH with the Galaxy class as there is relatively little clean up to do around the joints between the subassemblies.

Same is not true in my experience with the TOS or Refit Enterprise, especially attaching the saucer to the neck or the nacelles to the support pylons. However it is still easier to get a better result by building and then painting the subassemblies rather than building the whole ship and then painting.

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Re: To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

Postby el gato » Tue Jun 13, 2017 3:15 pm

Saw a ship at Wonderfest that was a marvel of engineering. Not only was it completely painted and decaled, it was built so it could be disassembled with ease. You never would've guessed it from looking at it that it was meant to come apart.

And yes, the model was lit. :o
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Re: To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

Postby MSgtUSAFRet » Wed Jun 14, 2017 1:17 pm

El Gato, I agree some model companies engineer their models for precision fit and appearance. BanDai comes to mind.

I have a 1/500 Yamato ship I want to build soon and, from what I read about the model, it will be an excellent build and may not require much in the way of seam putty or painting; at least bulk painting. I also plan to light it - I can't help myself or my preferences. :roll: :lol:

So I guess it comes back to "it depends on the model"!

Thanks for the reply!

Steve

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Re: To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

Postby el gato » Wed Jun 14, 2017 3:35 pm

The model I referenced was a scratchbuild :o

I guess for me it comes down to the size of the model. If it's large and can be broken down to component parts where assembly is relatively easy (and seams are easy to hide or fix), then this is the best way to go. If it's a small model where one sneeze of the spray can or airbrush covers half of the surface area, then painting after assembly makes more sense
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Re: To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

Postby TonyG2 » Fri Jun 16, 2017 9:12 am

I have a 1/500 Yamato ship I want to build soon and, from what I read about the model, it will be an excellent build


Is that the version from the Yamato 2199 remake series

https://hlj.com/product/BAN986230

or the earlier movie version release

https://hlj.com/product/BAN965514

or the even earlier series version

https://hlj.com/product/BAN31253

I have the first two, 2199 and movie version and agree that both are excellent and although I haven't started building yet I can easily believe they will go together with no issues.

I had considered getting the 2199 expansion set with the detailed hanger bay, extra fighters etc. https://hlj.com/product/BAN990136

But I don't think I have the guts or skill to try and light the beast.

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Re: To Paint Then Build or Build Then Paint?

Postby MSgtUSAFRet » Fri Jun 16, 2017 7:31 pm

TonyG2 wrote:
I have a 1/500 Yamato ship I want to build soon and, from what I read about the model, it will be an excellent build


Is that the version from the Yamato 2199 remake series

https://hlj.com/product/BAN986230

or the earlier movie version release

https://hlj.com/product/BAN965514

"the even earlier series version"

https://hlj.com/product/BAN31253

I have the first two, 2199 and movie version and agree that both are excellent and although I haven't started building yet I can easily believe they will go together with no issues.

I had considered getting the 2199 expansion set with the detailed hanger bay, extra fighters etc. https://hlj.com/product/BAN990136

But I don't think I have the guts or skill to try and light the beast.



Tony, thanks for the response!

I think I have this one

or the earlier movie version release

https://hlj.com/product/BAN965514

As for lighting it, I haven't really dug into it yet so I don't know how intense it will be, but I am thinking it will be a simple lighting thing; white lights for the superstructure portholes, green for the large superstructure windows, Red for the Wave motion cannon and orange or yellow for the Wave Motion engine. Simple now, I know.

I kinda cut my teeth on the StarBlazers anime and I was glad to see a realistic representation of the ship available to build. I haven't gotten into the new designs. We'll see!

Thanks again,

Steve


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